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Barry Speaks: We won’t shut-up and eat your spam

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Today we have a guest post from the ever popular Barry. Barry is overworked and underpaid, and wants to get the word out:

I’ve been hearing a lot of chatter about how ESPs think the ISPs should just shut up and eat their spam. That if the ISPs understood how hard they’re working, and what the ESP’s business model is, that they’d understand, and then shut up and eat their spam. That if the ISPs just had a little heart, and understood that the ESPs are just trying to make a living, they’d shut up and eat their spam.

Here’s something the ESPs probably don’t want to hear: the ISPs understand, but we really don’t CARE. What the we are trying to do is keep our own customers happy by delivering less spam and more wanted mail, and to keep our mail systems from falling over under the load. We’re trying to keep our businesses alive in an increasingly hostile economy, so that maybe our companies have enough money left over at the end of the month to give us a paycheck. We want our customers to be able to use email for all the purposes email was adopted for, without having to wade through endless piles of trash.

Our goals are almost the opposite of the ESP’s goals. The ISPs want less mail. The ESPs want to send more and more mail. Trying to convince the ISPs to shut up and eat their spam by stamping their little tootsies and whining about how hard their jobs are is not going to work. The ISPs have an even harder job that pays less well, and we really have no sympathy for your problems. Clean up your mailing lists and your networks, senders, and you will find that your problems disappear without having to explain your business model for the 473895966578675560909th time to people who have already heard it 473895966578675560908 times.

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  1. [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Kelly Lorenz and Chris Wheeler, Spamtacular.com. Spamtacular.com said: New blog post: Barry Speaks: We won't shut-up and eat your spam http://bit.ly/7RN2OW [...]

    Posted by Tweets that mention Mickey Chandler's Spamtacular | Barry Speaks: We won’t shut-up and eat your spam -- Topsy.com | December 3, 2009, 5:32 pm
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    This post was mentioned on Twitter by spamtacularcom: New blog post: Barry Speaks: We won’t shut-up and eat your spam http://bit.ly/7RN2OW...

    Posted by uberVU - social comments | December 4, 2009, 9:54 am
  3. [...] seems this reactive approach to customer policing may no longer be enough. In fact, one of the large spam filter providers has recently offered their [...]

    Posted by The coming changes – Word to the Wise | December 9, 2009, 1:04 pm
  4. [...] Barry Speaks: We won’t shut-up and eat your spam: A guest post by a ISP rep on the Spamtacular blog. What the we are trying to do is keep our own customers happy by delivering less spam and more wanted mail, and to keep our mail systems from falling over under the load. [...] Clean up your mailing lists and your networks, senders, and you will find that your problems disappear without having to explain your business model for the 473895966578675560909th time to people who have already heard it 473895966578675560908 times. [...]

    Posted by A series of warnings – Word to the Wise | December 15, 2009, 5:56 pm
  5. [...] Barry Speaks: We won’t shut-up and eat your spam. This is one of those anonymous blog posts by the well-known “Barry”. In it, Barry explains that ISP’s don’t really care about senders’ pain so much as they care about senders sending mail that the ISP’s customers actually want to get. [...]

    Posted by Mickey Chandler's Spamtacular | Top 10 Posts of 2009 | December 31, 2009, 10:22 am

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